Re: Re: Request for Peter Flegg and Outstanding 'Perth Group' Questions 22 November 2004
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Christopher Tyler,
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Re: Re: Re: Request for Peter Flegg and Outstanding 'Perth Group' Questions

Tony Floyd wrote:

'As every one of the 'alternative' or anti-HIV arguments that I've had a closer look at has failed to cite evidence correctly and/or has quoted evidence that actually defeats their point...'

Our 'claim' that the antibody tests are not standardized is something Mr. Floyd takes exception with. This should make it all the more easy for Mr. Floyd to answer a very simple question since this objection on our part is without merrit. Do reactive bands of p24, p32, and p41 indicate infection by 'HIV'?

Yes or no?

Since these tests are '99.9%' accurate, it should be no problem for Mr. Floyd to spend but 1/2 a minute in response to this query.

However, unlike most gay men who are pressured to take these tests, I'm well aware the answer is not so straightforward, despite assurances which parade 'HIV' testing to consumers as a surefire and accurate proposition. For instance, if one were to do a google search for 'HIV test 99.9', the first hit is to a website called, www.stophivsite.com. Any consumer doing research 'on the internet' about the veracity of 'HIV' testing would read:

"The quickest and most common HIV screening test used today is the ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay). It is a simple blood test that detects the presence of HIV antibodies. If this test is positive for HIV antibodies, another test called a Western Blot is done to confirm the positive result. When both ELISA and the Western Blot are positive ("HIV-positive"), it is 99.9% certain there is HIV infection."
http://www.thestophivsite.com/abouthiv/?action=testing

Interesting. Were this individual to receive a positive notification from 'Home Access Express HIV-1', and then went to their doctor for 'confirmation', would reactive bands of p24, p32, and p41 indicate infection by 'HIV'? What would this individual be told by his physician?

Would this '99.9%' accuracy diagnosis apply equally in Australia as it would in the United States?

In other words, does 99.9% mean the same thing everywhere and anywhere when it comes to the 'HIV' antibody tests since this is the number trotted out in front of the general public?

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