Nicholas Bennett inadvertantly admits that 'HIV' is a 'genetically engineered' laboratory artefact 19 November 2004
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Alexander H Russell,

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Re: Nicholas Bennett inadvertantly admits that 'HIV' is a 'genetically engineered' laboratory artefact

Nicholas Bennett uncannily confesses: "Having personally grown, harvested, purified and genetically engineered strains of HIV, using standard scientific techniques applicable to any virus or situation, I find it a little hard to question its existence!"

Mr. Bennett inadvertently admits that 'HIV' is a "genetically engineered" in vitro laboratory artefact. My question to Mr. Bennett is: where does 'HIV' exist in vivo - outside the laboratory in the wild and how does 'HIV' replicate in the wild? Mr. Bennett proves my main point: he has entered a loop in which he is merely replicating an original laboratory artefact. Such viral particles have never been recovered from a single individual. To prove the point: all Mr. Bennett's cloned particles will be identical. However, in vivo, where it is supposed that such particles are replicating inside cells it is also believed that no two particles are ever the same.

It has been claimed that particles are recovered an hour apart from different parts of the same body are always different. The fact that Mr. Bennett can play around all day long with identical cloned artefacts proves nothing about the in vivo situation. What happens in vitro should not be the basis for suppositions concerning an in vivo situation. The fact that Mr. Bennett can create something in the laboratory does not mean it exists in the wild.

Mr. Bennett claims that he has "purified" the putative 'HIV': so where are his EMs (electronmicrographs) of this 'purified HIV'?

I invite Mr. Bennett to read the following text by Etienne de Harven regarding the use of EM in virus purification and ask him to follow these standard procedures rather than the current fashion for indirect markers of virtual virology conjuring tricks. Can Mr. Follow the de Harven method of purification and provide us with an EM of his 'purified HIV'? Dr Etienne de Harven stated:

"I published the following picture in 1965 in a paper entitled Viremia in Friend Leukemia: the electron microscope approach to the problem which appeared in Pathologie-Biologie, vol 13, pp. 125- 134. Transmission electron microscopy was used to verify the success of a method for virus purification which I had developed when working at the Sloan Kettering Institute in New York. The method was as follows: About 20 ml of blood from leukemic DBA/2 mice was collected, blood cells were removed by low speed centrifugation and the plasma was diluted 1/1 with cold heparinized Ringer’s solution. The diluted plasma was cleared from contaminating debris by two consecutive steps of Millipore ultrafiltration, using pore size 0.65 µ first and 0.22 µ next. The second filtrate was then spun at high speed at 30000 g for 2 hours.

The resulting pellet, about 1mm in diameter, was immediately fixed with osmium tetroxide, embedded in epoxy resin and prepared for electron microscopy by routine thin sectioning methods. Aliquots of the unfixed pellet were resuspended in Ringer’s solution and used for titration of the leukemogenic activity in adult DBA/2 mice, known to be 100% susceptible to the virus. It was that simple! The picture shows, at a magnification of 19500 x, an almost pure population of typical "type C" viruses (not yet called retrovirus in 1965....). Three arrows point at contaminating debris and microvesicles. The interpretation of these EM pictures was that virus purification was satisfactory and that contamination rate was extremely low. Dangerously enough, EM was progressively dismissed in retrovirus research after 1970. Molecular biologists started to rely exclusively on various ‘markers’, and what was sedimenting in sucrose gradient at density 1.16 gm/l was regarded as "pure virus". It is only in 1997, after fifteen years of intensive HIV research, that elementary EM controls were performed, with the disastrous results recently reviewed in Continuum. How many wasted efforts, how many billions of research dollars gone in smoke... Horrible. Errare humanum est sed diabolicum perseverare...."

(Pioneer deplores 'HIV', Continuum magazine, Volume 5, Number 2).

Dr Etienne de Harven is emeritus Professor of Pathology, University of Toronto. He worked in electron microscopy (EM) primarily on the ultrastructure of retroviruses throughout his professional career of 25 years at the Sloan Kettering Institute in New York and 13 years at the University of Toronto. In 1956 he was the first to report on the EM of the Friend virus in murine (mouse) leukemia, and in 1960, to coin the word "budding" to describe steps of virus assembly on cell surfaces.

Competing interests: None declared