Yet again on "HIV" and AIDS 25 October 2004
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Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos,
Department of Medical Physics, Royal Perth Hospital, Western Australia, 6001,
Valendar F Turner, John Papadimitriou, Barry Page, David Causer, Helman Alfonso, Sam Mhlongo, Todd Miller, Christian Fiala

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Re: Yet again on "HIV" and AIDS

Yet again on "HIV" and AIDS

In two of our rapid responses ("Mechanism by which HIV causes AIDS", 29 September and "HIV" and AIDS, 16 October, we raised several questions in regard to the "HIV" theory of AIDS. From his rapid responses, "HIV mechanism revisited", 2 October and "Re: "HIV" and AIDS", 18 October, it is obvious that either Nicholas Bennett did not understand our questions and their profound significance or simply chose to give us long irrelevant yarns. So let us repeat them once again.

Is it true that the principle tenets of the "HIV" theory of AIDS are:

1. All AIDS patients are infected with "HIV" Yes or no.

2. "HIV" decreases the T4 cell number, that is, causes Acquired Immune Deficiency (AID), either by killing them or by some other means. Yes or no.

3. The decrease in T4 cells leads to the appearance of approximately 30 opportunistic infections (OIs) and malignancies, that is to the clinical syndrome(s). Yes or no.

Is it also true that:

4. At present the only tests routinely used to prove "HIV" infection are the antibody tests. Yes or no.

5. According to the test kits manufacturers and to some of the best known experts in "HIV" testing, it is not possible to relate a positive "HIV" antibody test to "HIV" infection.[1-3]

Yes or no

6. Since, it is not possible to relate a positive antibody test to "HIV" infection, it follows that it is not possible to state what percent, if any, of the individuals who test positive are actually infected. Yes or no.

Gallo and Montagnier have shown that "HIV" does not kill the T4 cells.[4 5]

Yes or no.

7. At present no evidence exists that "HIV" decreases the T4 cells by any other means, including "Trafficking". Yes or no.

8. Patients belonging to the AIDS risk groups can develop the clinical syndrome, including OIs in the presence of normal T4 cell numbers. Yes or no.

9. Patients belonging to the AIDS risk groups can have T4 cell numbers below 200/microlitre for many years without developing the clinical syndrome. Yes or no.


1. Packet Insert Axsym system (HIV-1/HIV-2). Abbott Laboratories Diagnostics Division. 100 Abbott Park Rd. Abbott Park. Illinois: United States of America. 1988, 1998.

2. Blattner WA. Retroviruses. In: Evans AS, editor. Viral infections of humans. 3rd ed. New York: Plenum Medical Book Company, 1989:545-592.

3. Mortimer PP. The AIDS virus and the AIDS test. Med Internat 1989;56:2334-2339.

4. Laurent-Crawford AG, Krust B, Muller S, Rivière Y, Rey-Cuillé M-A, Béhet J-M, et al. The Cytopathic Effect of HIV is Associated with Apoptosis. Virol 1991;185:829-839.

5. Zagury D, Bernard J, Leonard R, Cheynier R, Feldman M, Sarin PS, et al. Long-Term Cultures of HTLV-III-Infected T Cells: A Model of Cytopathology of T-Cell Depletion in AIDS. Science 1986;231:850-853.

Competing interests: None declared