Royal Perth Hospital, Western Australia, 6001,
Valendar F Turner, John Papadimitriou, Barry Page, David Causer, Helman Alfonso, Sam Mhlongo, Todd Miller, Christian Fiala
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The reasonable request to the “HIV”/AIDS experts still remains
In his rapid response, “Re: A reasonable request to the “HIV” / AIDS experts”, 21 April 2004, Brian Foley gives the titles of 23 reports/articles published either in 1981 or 1982 in which the authors describe the diagnosis of diseases, none of which were new, in gay men, drug users, haemophiliacs and blood transfusion recipients. He also gives 4 references published in 1983 in which “an inverted CD4:CD8 T-cell ratio” (a phenomenon known before the AIDS era that can be due to nothing more than a phenotypic change of CD4 cells into CD8 cells, an effect known to the “HIV” experts ), was reported in patients belonging the same groups.
We are amazed that Brian Foley’s answer is so totally unrelated to our request. Especially as he is said to be an “HIV” and not an AIDS expert.
Brian Foley wrote: “The Perth Group would like to know the name of one or two individuals who might be credited as being "the" discoverer(s) of HIV-1. It is my opinion that such credit can never go to any one individual or even a small group of individuals…Only after this and much, much more background work…had been done, was it even reasonable to begin looking for a virus that could infect CD4+ T-cells…The virologists who eventually isolate…the virus tend to be the heros in the press.”
We are not interested in who might get “credited”, “any background work” (important as it may be), or who are the “heros”.
In our rapid response “A reasonable request to the “HIV”/AIDS experts”, 20 April 2004, we wrote: “ our request was: “Could please Brian Foley, Christopher Noble, Peter Flegg, Ed Cooper or any other “HIV”/AIDS experts who follow this debate, including John Moore and Wain-Hobson, tell us who is the discoverer of the unique human retrovirus presently known as “HIV”?”
We did not ask for “the name of one or two individuals who might be credited as being "the" discoverer(s) of HIV-1.” There is either one person or a single group of people who may have discovered it.
So the question still remains: “Who is the discoverer of the unique human retrovirus presently known as “HIV”?”
1. Papadopulos-Eleopopulos E, Turner VF, Papadimitriou JM, Hedland-Thomas B, Causer D, Page B. (1995). A critical analysis of the HIV-T4-cell-AIDS hypothesis. Genetica 95:5-24. www.theperthgroup.com/SCIPAPERS/ept4cells.html
Competing interests: None declared