Will Christopher Noble please post his analysis of the 1983 Montagnier Science paper 19 December 2003
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Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulus,
Biophysicist
Royal Perth Hospital, Western Australia, 6001,
Valendar F Turner, John Papadimitriou, Barry Page, David Causer, Helman Alfonso

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Will Christopher Noble please post his analysis the 1983 Montagnier Science paper

In his rapid response: "Rhetorical questions”, 17th December, Christopher Noble wrote: “The questions put forward by the Perth Group regarding the evidence for the existence of HIV have been answered numerous times over the years. (1- 4) The fact that the beliefs of the Perth Group have not changed one iota in this time does not indicate that these beliefs have any validity. Rather it indicates that the Perth Group are not presenting themselves as students willing to learn. They have unilaterally set themselves up as the ultimate arbiters of what can be accepted as evidence for the existence of retroviruses. They are simply not willing to learn. The Perth Group know exactly what the evidence for the existence of HIV is. It has been shown to them time and time again”.

References 1-4 are not relevant because our question was not addressed to the National Institutes of Health, Peter Duesberg, Robin Weiss or Luc Montagnier. Our repeated question regarding the discovery of HIV was addressed to Christopher Noble and was very precise.

1. We asked if Montagnier discovered HIV. Not if HIV exists. Yes or No?

2. If yes, what is the evidence in the Montagnier paper which convinces Christopher Noble that Montagnier discovered HIV?

Christopher Noble did not answer the question. So let us repeat: What is the evidence in Montagnier’s paper “that a virus, later called HIV, can be found in patients that have AIDS”? What is the evidence in his 1983 paper [1] that such a virus exists in anyone?

1. Barré-Sinoussi F, Chermann JC, Rey F, Nugeyre MT, Chamaret S, Gruest J, et al. Isolation of a T-lymphotropic retrovirus from a patient at risk for acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). Science 1983;220:868-71.

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